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- From: Gord Wait <gord@vdc.smos.com>
- Subject: Re: Advice to Java proponents (was Re: Will Java kill C++?)
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- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:21:39 GMT
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- Rick DeNatale wrote:
- >
- > It doesn't bode well for the ultimate fate of a language when important
- > things that people want to do with the language aren't provided in
- > standard ways in the language. This is one of the reasons that we don't
- > have Pascal to kick around much anymore, one of the reasons that C took
- > over Pascal's predominant place as a personal computer programming
- > language is that Pascal left any kind of reasonable I/O as an exercise to
- > the reader, and there was no common way of doing it, while C's (actually
- > Unix's) stdio package was easily supported on most of the common operating
- > systems.
-
- I tend to feel this way about the AWT portion of Java: one week into the
- language and you get the urge to toss out AWT and roll your own UI
- classes. (Don't do it!! pester the Javasoft people to fix AWT quickly!)
-
- One thing nice in the language is the easy TCP/IP hooks already there!
- Since the base library set already includes "easy" TCP/IP support, java
- just might live up to the title of king of the "networking" languages..
-
- As for non-networked tasks, Java really needs work to compete with the
- established languages (tools, Standard libs etc).
-
-
- Gord Wait S-MOS Systems Vancouver Design Centre
- (B.C. Canada eh!)
- gord@vdc.smos.com
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